2022-01-17 Toronto Board of Health meeting Next steps?
Toronto Public Health (TPH) has no measure of overall public health so how can they possibly know if they are improving overall public health? There was discussion about the wisdom of going back to in person school, but without any measures of overall public health such as all cause mortality it’s impossible to make intelligent tradeoffs. So the discussions were anecdotal and inconclusive hand waving. TPH seems to get more tunnel vision focused on COVID-19 and vaccines as the disease gets milder and the vaccines become less effective. With no measurements to ground them in reality they have nothing to help them change direction. Scary.
The agenda item goes on to council with a long list of proposed technological interventions like vaccines and N95 masks but nothing to enhance natural immunity through better diet, exercize, vitamin D etc. that would make people better able to independently cope with COVID-19 with their own immune system. There are some proposals to house the homeless which might count as enhancing immunity more naturally. TPH wants to mandate vaccines for schools. TPH is advocating measures that would reduce our medical autonomy in a physical sense and also destroy our freedoms in a more general way by seeking to mandating these interventions. Canada: The Apartheid State 2021 discusses how Canada's vaccine passport is a gateway to DigitalID and mass surveillance. I encourage you to read the agenda item and think about how awful a society they want to create. Medical serfdom might be an apt term. Fortunately Toronto Public Health doesn't appear to have the power to mandate COVID-19 vaccines in schools but they are asking Ontario to do it and Doug Ford has a history of changing his positions on this pandemic.
I’ve requested the written comments from Toronto and uploaded them here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1DwRhlDR2OtwDzABTjuDLXBFaa11cMrwg?usp=sharing I’ve coded the file names based on my impression of their general tone:
+ leaning our way
o orthodox
? not sure
I think there needs to be a rallying point specifically for lobbying the Toronto Board of Health. They are an epicentre of the assault on our freedoms, although I think the real power lies with Ontario. I was involved in a much more coordinated lobby against the Turfgrass and Prohibited plants bylaw last June (even so we failed totally against the Turfgrass bylaw). We even managed to get a representative from Toronto to come to a discussion about the Turfgrass bylaw organized by Anne-Marie Lister at Ryerson. We had 6 speakers loosely coordinated in advance at the Planning and Housing committee. For the Turfgrass bylaw it was clear that the real power was with the Staff and not the committee. I have the feeling it's really TPH running the show at the BoH too. But I have no idea how to lobby TPH directly or even not sure if that is desirable in this situation where it is much broader political issue. It might be better to start lobbying our councillors outside of TPH board meetings.
I don't think we are going to make it at this course and speed... approx 5 people spoke directly against the narrative today. We need 50 or 100 people signed up to speak at these monthly meetings... Then coordinate the presentations to build on each other and hit multiple topics in depth. Get enough speakers to try and force them to hold an additional meeting to go through the formalities of hearing everyone.
Possible Actions
The BoH doesn’t publish the submissions or speaker list in advance to enable groups to co-ordinate presentations. Is anyone thinking of setting up a website or a page for lobbying the Toronto Board of Health? It's super easy to set up a substack. The hardest part is thinking of the name. If I had to set one up it would be a shoestring effort like this substack probably called f2tph…
https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/exemptions/toronto-board-of-health-recommends-removal-of-vaccine-exemptions/ lists a large number of groups and people already active on this issue in 2019-10.
https://www.rosemaryfrei.ca/ is a local Toronto journalist active in this area
Canadian Covid Care Alliance might be a better place to host a web site. See also https://www.rebelnews.com/toronto_board_of_health_privatizes_public_broadcast_hearing for other potential groups for this to coalesce around. Here is a form where I will collect emails of those interested in spinning off a group to monitor the Toronto BoH https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc2f7S40BAHvkxtqzQ-xaSN8sV3QMDWTQbU40TKgFQMaOucyg/viewform
TPH may not be doing any analysis related to overall public health but Toronto is an important hub for medical research and there is interesting work being done such as Effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against Omicron or Delta infection Spoiler alert. The study found negative vaccine efficacy in certain situations. It wouldn’t surprise me if there were groups in Toronto outside TPH looking at mortality by vaccine status in 2021. Ontario clearly has all the data to do that analysis. The study lists many local contacts. Does anyone have connections into that world?
TPH admits they don’t have metrics for overall public health. I proposed they look at All Cause Mortality and Dr. Rochagné Kilian rattled off a list that sounded like a good start for All Cause Morbidity. Maybe we can help TPH get a list together. To be fair to TPH they may also be under some provincial guidelines. But if the province is doing all cause mortality analysis for Toronto it didn’t come up at all today…
Even better to start presenting our own All Cause Mortality charts for to Toronto at the board meetings. We could start with a simple monthly graph with lines for 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022. This data must be available. If anyone knows where to find it, please respond in the comments. https://www.publichealthontario.ca/en/data-and-analysis/mortality-overall-health only goes up to 2015 but certainly lists a number of useful measures. There must be more recent data! https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71-607-x/71-607-x2021028-eng.htm is only available for all of Ontario and only up to September at the moment.
Potential freedom of information requests:
One of the deputants (I think it was Derek Moran) asked the Board to require the Medical Officer of Health (Dr. de Villa) to release the number of deaths due to the vaccines in Toronto. I don’t expect the Board to require this, but a FOI request might get it.
Dr. de Villa made a number of statements about vaxed vs unvaxed that my Councillor Ainslie asked her to repeat. Dr. de Villa’s statements seem to be contrary to other data I’m reading. https://report24.news/tricksereien-gehen-weiter-erneut-irrefuehrende-zahlen-zum-impfstatus-auf-den-intensivstationen/ discusses how politicized the German data around vaxed vs unvaxed has become and various tricks that have been used to manipulate their data. It would be very interesting to get the data behind Dr. de Villa’s statements.
According to Kulvinder Kaur MD @dockaurG Jan 17
The Government of Ontario has stopped all public reporting on the vaccination status of Covid deaths. @fordnation @celliottability WHY?
This implies they were reporting this information. Does anyone know where that was and whether they broke it down for Toronto?
(Hopefully independent MPPs like Roman Baber can get this information flowing again without FOIs)
FOI only costs $5 to open (with potentially more fees to actually get data)
Is anyone interested in trying to contact the other people inclined in our direction that either spoke at the meeting today or wrote comments?
There was a very powerful presentation from a father that lost his son shortly after vaccination. The more victims and relatives that speak out, the better If they happen to be in Toronto then perhaps we can help them lobby their councillor.
can we coordinate with other groups? I believe Action4Canada does letter writing campaigns to various elected officials.
Organize a debate with TPH? Byram Briddle?
Lobby councillors, especially those on the Board of Health
It’s still possible to submit written comments to council on the Board of Health agenda item If anyone can dig up all cause mortality data in time for Council, I’d be very interested in what it says.
There is an Ontario election coming up. I invite any candidate that wants my vote to at least make a written submission to the Toronto Board of Health. It seems to me that Ontario is the level of government that really counts and we should be trying to make it an election issue.
please add your thoughts in the comments. I will also update the article in place with anything else that occurs to me.
Thanks for your hard work Greg!